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he would repeal the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax. the snon-partisan tax said it would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years. romney said his plan would be paid for. to pay for the cuts, he would have to close loopholes in the tax codes and get red of deductions and credits. he hasn't said which he'd get rid of, saying he would work with congress. president obama said his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion. >> we all know we have to do more. so, i put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. it's on a website. you can look at all the numbers, what cuts we make and what revenue we raise. >> that comes from the budget and policy priorities. the president is counting money saved by letting the bush tax cuts expire for people making more than $250,000 a year. he's counting $1 trillion in savings but cutting down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. the committee for responsible budget called that a gimmick. they were deficit financed in the first place. the president is counting on savings from last year when the white house
he would repeal the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax. the snon-partisan tax said it would cost $4.8 trillion over ten years. romney said his plan would be paid for. to pay for the cuts, he would have to close loopholes in the tax codes and get red of deductions and credits. he hasn't said which he'd get rid of, saying he would work with congress. president obama said his plan would cut the deficit by $4 trillion. >> we all know we have to do more. so, i put forward a specific $4...
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. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geopolitical foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me. i
. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney...
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tax cuts. a guy who says we shouldn't be having mission creep in libya but wants mission creep in syria. he's been on all sides of the issues. >> that's just in the last week. >> the president needs to just say these things, it's not obvious to people watching on tv. when you're in a debate it's helpful to talk about it at that time rather than in the rallies afterwards. the jobs question is very interesting. he's trying to convince people in ohio where the unemployment rate is lower than the national average, which already is coming down -- >> in a place where the president's plan to save the auto industry actually protected many jobs. >> so in the face of all the evidence around them, and you can argue about economic statistics as much as you like, but people know their own economy and their own lives. he's trying to put against that by saying there are joshs in the ground we will dig up presumagely by pulling away from environmental regulations. he's talking really about fracking. that's his
tax cuts. a guy who says we shouldn't be having mission creep in libya but wants mission creep in syria. he's been on all sides of the issues. >> that's just in the last week. >> the president needs to just say these things, it's not obvious to people watching on tv. when you're in a debate it's helpful to talk about it at that time rather than in the rallies afterwards. the jobs question is very interesting. he's trying to convince people in ohio where the unemployment rate is...
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everybody would like a tax cut. who wouldn't want a tax cut, especially 20% across the board? if you're making 35%, the top rate, you go to 28%. all chris wallace was trying to get from ryan on sunday was just tell me what big deductions you're going to get rid of so we can finance that. it's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to sa
everybody would like a tax cut. who wouldn't want a tax cut, especially 20% across the board? if you're making 35%, the top rate, you go to 28%. all chris wallace was trying to get from ryan on sunday was just tell me what big deductions you're going to get rid of so we can finance that. it's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of...
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level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? if we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here? >> the romney campaign has taken issue of course with what the obama campaign uses which is a tax policy center analysis. in that ad that draws on the -- to argue that mitt romney's tax plan depends on a $5 trillion tax cut that's not paid for. the conclusion they drew is the only way you offset those tax cuts over ten years, after handcuffing yourself on the pledges that romney has made to reduce tax rates across the board by 20% eliminating the alternative minimum tax and erasing the federal estate tax is to eliminate deductions that will inevitably touch the middle class. the romney folks say the obama campaign and tax policy center created a strawman. the problem is the romney campaign hasn't created their own and responded with any detail on how they would do it. it becomes impossible at least politically once you account for the pledge handcuffs that romney has made. while the president didn't fully acknowledge he cam
level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? if we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here? >> the romney campaign has taken issue of course with what the obama campaign uses which is a tax policy center analysis. in that ad that draws on the -- to argue that mitt romney's tax plan depends on a $5 trillion tax cut that's not paid for. the conclusion they drew is the only way you offset those tax cuts over ten years, after handcuffing...
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we'll get to the deductions but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue lowering. you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> yesterday mitt romney finally gave in, sort of. he didn't detail the deductions he intends to eliminate, but at least offered a few suggestions. >> you could say everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number or do it by the same method that bowles-simpson did it, limiting certain deductions, that's the sort of thing you do with congress. >> so there you go. that's the sort of thing he's talking about. romney's campaign emphasized after the interview those ideas are actually not part of his plan writing -- mark halperin, as you know, i'm an easily confused person
we'll get to the deductions but the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all americans tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue lowering. you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> yesterday mitt romney finally gave in, sort of. he didn't detail the deductions he intends to eliminate, but at least offered a few...
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any kind, an income tax increase. if you're going to have any kind of a long-term deal, a long-term dif set deal, which is what everybody -- not everybody, but a lot of people on both sides who say this is what they want. if you're going to, it will include a tax component on the wealthy. >> if obama campaigns on that and wins and if democrats hold the senate and make gains in the house, that could ratchet up pressure on republicans to make some kind of deal. otherwise, you have the other thing. it's a myth that nothing is going to happen in the lame duck, because if they take democrat off and congress doesn't show up, a lot will happen. december 31st, the expiration of the bush tax cuts. they go away if nothing happens. something ahas to happen. >> i find it extremely rich to hear john boehner talking about we can't do anything because for almost four years the gop strategy of obstruction has been to keep anything from happening. anything that obama wants, anything he's interested in, we must stop that and keep it fr
any kind, an income tax increase. if you're going to have any kind of a long-term deal, a long-term dif set deal, which is what everybody -- not everybody, but a lot of people on both sides who say this is what they want. if you're going to, it will include a tax component on the wealthy. >> if obama campaigns on that and wins and if democrats hold the senate and make gains in the house, that could ratchet up pressure on republicans to make some kind of deal. otherwise, you have the other...
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they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before we eviscerate mitt romney entirely, he hasn't jumped on the bandwagon, though he did downplay the jobless rate, and he misstated the reason behind it. take a listen to this, john. >> the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> in fact, the unemployment rate fell because more people were working. i mean, this man's not capable of telling the truth about anything. >> well, he's actually correct in some past months but not in today's job. >> but he was speaking today. >> and so what he's doing now is h
they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there....
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if people want those tax cuts, they're looking for him. who won't cut education, who insists his health care plan covers people with pre-existing comment. the same guy who said his 47% comments were wrong. >>> also, we're beginning to the learn more about the flawed strategy that led president obama to lay a debate egg wednesday night. best not happen again. >>> we mentioned the unemployment number dropped sharply. >>> finally, let me finish with 7.8% jobless number, what it means, and why some people don't like looking at it. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >> after losing about 800,000 jobs a month when i took office, our businesses have now added 5.2 million new jobs over the past 2 1/2 years. this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. more americans entered the workforce, more people are getting jobs. today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to the score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to t
if people want those tax cuts, they're looking for him. who won't cut education, who insists his health care plan covers people with pre-existing comment. the same guy who said his 47% comments were wrong. >>> also, we're beginning to the learn more about the flawed strategy that led president obama to lay a debate egg wednesday night. best not happen again. >>> we mentioned the unemployment number dropped sharply. >>> finally, let me finish with 7.8% jobless number,...
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romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white, up is down, and everything is the way he says it is in the world of mitt romney. like yago, mitt romney delivered those lines in the presence of a black man, but on this occasion the president would not be deceived. he allowed mr. romney to rehearse the full extent of his lie and then just a few hours ago drew our attention to what really happened last night. >> the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts in favor of the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> mr. romney is quite rightly b
romney's tax plan. for months he's been telling us that he'll cut everyone's taxes by 20%. so some of the country's brightest economists did the math and found that romney's tax plan promises to cut taxes by $5 trillion without adding to the deficit. but when mitt romney took to the stage last night, he delivered a line that beggared belief. >> no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> so black is white,...
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. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. what i've said is i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan. now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> all right. what what's the deal here? >> this is a complicated one. we have from the romney campaign a plan that has been analyzed by an independent group that said it would lead to around $450 billion a year in revenue that's cut from the -- revenue that's not there as a result of these taxes. the obama campaign has then taken this and extrapolated it over ten years, and they have arrived at $5 trillion. well, ten years times $450 billion doesn't get us to $5 trillion. so that's not quite right. but what is true is that the romney campaign, governor romney himself, has not explained what they're going to do to make sure that this is revenue neutral, as he said. he says, and the campaign says, that the
. >> i'm not looking for a $5 trillion tax cut. what i've said is i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. for 18 months, he's been running on this tax plan. now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> all right. what what's the deal here? >> this is a complicated one. we have from the romney campaign a plan that has been analyzed by an...
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tax rate, they're taxed at a lower rate. the businesses in the last 3% of businesses happen to employ half -- half of all people that work in small business. they employ one-quarter of all workers in america, and you want to take their tax rate from 35% to 40%. i talked to a guy with a very small business, he's in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by behind bowles-simpson, by the way, get the rates down, lower exemptions and create jobs. there's nothing better to get us to a balanced budget t
tax rate, they're taxed at a lower rate. the businesses in the last 3% of businesses happen to employ half -- half of all people that work in small business. they employ one-quarter of all workers in america, and you want to take their tax rate from 35% to 40%. i talked to a guy with a very small business, he's in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax,...
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may go as far as endorsing a candidate for president with the hopes that the irs will revoke their tax-exempt status. it's part of a growing effort by the group alliance defending freedom to challenge the johnson amendment, which they say is unconstitutional. it states, religious organizations cannot participate in or interfere in any political campaign on behalf of any candidate. >>> all right, it's one of the biggest challengers for the busy traveler staying fit while you are on the road. our richard klaas has a plan that will have you doing push-ups in your pjs. >> adrian has been training me for four years. he knows my travel lifestyle well. so he's put together a routine of exercises suited to a hotel room of any size. when you wake up, in your pjs, all in 10 minutes. >> you're going to sit all day in a meeting, and you've probably been on the plane for four hours up to 16 hours depending how far you've flown and your body is just stuck. it just wants to move, so move. >> so the workout. six simple steps. >> first let's do a squat. the thing about the squats is you'll be in a sitting pos
may go as far as endorsing a candidate for president with the hopes that the irs will revoke their tax-exempt status. it's part of a growing effort by the group alliance defending freedom to challenge the johnson amendment, which they say is unconstitutional. it states, religious organizations cannot participate in or interfere in any political campaign on behalf of any candidate. >>> all right, it's one of the biggest challengers for the busy traveler staying fit while you are on the...
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. >> hugh they can justify raising taxes on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes. >> the romney campaign seized on that comment. arguing the president's policies have hurt the middle class. taking a breather from his preparations outside las vegas today. he visited the hoover dam. >> it's spectacular and i've never seen it before. >> reporter: aides say he's been calling his family to unwind each night. surrogates on both sides today acknowledge the debate will be a pivotal moment. >> i think it's important for viewers to get a chance to do comparison shopping. seeing the two candidates face to face, head to head. >> this cannot be about decemberibledecembe decibles. it has to be about details, particularly for governor romney. >> reporter: romney says he doesn't like formal debate preps, says it feels too artificial. instead, opting for more casual sessions. aides are coaching romney not to get visibly irritated if his opponent gets under his skin. something rob portman has been able to do in practice sessio
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moreover the next six weeks, and over and over again, you will hear my opponents talking about how bigger tax cuts and fewer regulations and that's the way to go, and since government can't do anything, it should do almost nothing. if you can't afford health care, then hope you don't get sick is their theory. if you can't afford college, borrow money from your parents. you know what? that's not who we are. i don't think government can solve all of our problems, but government is not the source of all of our problems, either. there's stuff we can do together. instead of blaming, immigrants, unions or gays or somebody for what is going on, what we need to do is pull together. we're all in thistogether. we believe that america only works when we all accept responsibility for ourselves and for our each other. that's how we create -- >> mr. obama will be on the road through wednesday's first presidential debate. mitt romney heads to colorado tomorrow where he will hold a rally and continue his preparations for wednesday's showdown in denver. he went to church this morning outside boston but held n
moreover the next six weeks, and over and over again, you will hear my opponents talking about how bigger tax cuts and fewer regulations and that's the way to go, and since government can't do anything, it should do almost nothing. if you can't afford health care, then hope you don't get sick is their theory. if you can't afford college, borrow money from your parents. you know what? that's not who we are. i don't think government can solve all of our problems, but government is not the source...
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a tax increase. if washington doesn't come up with bauj et deal by the end of the year. if existing tax cuts are allowed to automatically expire, the average tax increase would be $3500 a year, a middle income family make between $40,000 and $60,000 a year would see their tax bill rise by $2,000. >>> overseas marks were mixed this morning. tokyo's nikkei shed a fraction on concerns of company earnings, while south korea's kospi grained a fraction. hong kong's hang seng is closed for a holiday. >>> on wall street, the dow added 77 points while the nasdaq lost two points. jp morgan chase is being sued over dealings made by bear stearns, the investment bank it acquired in 2008. new york's attorney general filed the suit claiming bear stearns misled investors. the suit is the first to be filed under a group set up by the obama administration to investigate misconduct that caused the 2008 financial crisis. jp morgan says it will will contest the suit. and notes that the alleged actions took place before i
a tax increase. if washington doesn't come up with bauj et deal by the end of the year. if existing tax cuts are allowed to automatically expire, the average tax increase would be $3500 a year, a middle income family make between $40,000 and $60,000 a year would see their tax bill rise by $2,000. >>> overseas marks were mixed this morning. tokyo's nikkei shed a fraction on concerns of company earnings, while south korea's kospi grained a fraction. hong kong's hang seng is closed for a...
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. >>> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he would have to raise taxes on the middle class, or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here? >> roller coaster week hitting a high note for president obama. the new jobless numbers are easing the pain of his poor debate performance and bring romney's momentum to a sharp stop or it may not. joining me now, "new york times" columnist, nick kristof. an intriguing week politically, especially given 32 days before the election. let's start with the job figures today. because it's clearly good news for barack obama politically if nothing else. >> not only the numbers today but the revisions for the last two months. we seem to really be on a trajectory and you know, this is going -- apparently what really matters is not the economy for the year but the economy at the moment as people approach the election. people are beginning to vote. >> the good news for barack obama there. not so good news his performa
. >>> why won't romney level with us about his tax plan which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he would have to raise taxes on the middle class, or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here, how could we ever trust him here? >> roller coaster week hitting a high note for president obama. the new jobless numbers are easing the pain of his poor debate performance and bring romney's momentum to a sharp stop or it may not....
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47% of americans, i'm not likely to be highly successful with the message of lowering taxes. you know, it's not elegantly stated. let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question. i have a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job, but not everything i say is elegant. >> mitt romney may have waited nine minutes before he stooped to talk about today's solid job numbers, but that's nothing because it took him 18 days to finally state the obvious about his videotaped comments where he dismissed 47% of the population. and while it's no apology, i guess better late than never. >> in a campaign with 100s if not thousands of speeches, now and then you will say something that doesn't come out right. in this time i said something that's completely wrong. >> joining us from washington is michelle cottle correspondent for news week and jonathan capehart, an opinion writer for "the washington post." john, if i might begin with you, psychological studies tell us that we tend to make the most radical changes in our lives up until our 23rd birthday on a
47% of americans, i'm not likely to be highly successful with the message of lowering taxes. you know, it's not elegantly stated. let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question. i have a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job, but not everything i say is elegant. >> mitt romney may have waited nine minutes before he stooped to talk about today's solid job numbers, but that's nothing because it took him 18 days to finally state the obvious about...
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bain, 47%, tax returns or women. what on earth was going on with him last night? four home runs, no hits taken. >> yeah. i can't answer why he didn't do that. but i can tell you this. i do know that he was waiting to hear from mitt romney about how he was going to pay for his $5 trillion tax cut and he didn't get an answer. i would love to know from newt gingrich, who i know has been working with and is a surrogate for the romney campaign. can he name two, at least two of the deductions that will be cut to be able to pay for the $5 trillion tax cut that romney is offering? >> very good question. newt gingrich, one thing we're not getting from mitt romney is any real detail about how he's going to achieve this miraculous saving. can you explain to us any of the detail? >> well, first of all, there are at least two components to how he ends up paying for the tax cut. one is growth, where anybody who looks at getting down from obama's devastatingly high unemployment rate with 23 million americans out of work, if you get back to a normal unemployment rate you dramatic
bain, 47%, tax returns or women. what on earth was going on with him last night? four home runs, no hits taken. >> yeah. i can't answer why he didn't do that. but i can tell you this. i do know that he was waiting to hear from mitt romney about how he was going to pay for his $5 trillion tax cut and he didn't get an answer. i would love to know from newt gingrich, who i know has been working with and is a surrogate for the romney campaign. can he name two, at least two of the deductions...
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eastern time. >>> preaching politics from the pulpit, p if it happens churche risk losing tax-exempt status. many religious leaders across the country challenge the law anyway. find out why. he delicious sugar-free vitafusion fiber well gummies have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. . >>> they're calling for the defate of president obama and so-called unbiblical candidates. organizers hoped as many as 1500 pastors across the country would take part today. dan gilgoff joins us from washington to tell us more about what's happening here. dan, who is behind this, and what causes a candidate to be defined as "unbiblical" say some of the pastors? >> there's a conservative evangelical group called alliance defending freedom that organized the event today. what's really kind of incredible about it is this the third year they are challenging pastors to speak out for or against political candidates. what started a few dozen churches participated. this year today there were 1400 pastors who say they are participating. of course, the other big thi
eastern time. >>> preaching politics from the pulpit, p if it happens churche risk losing tax-exempt status. many religious leaders across the country challenge the law anyway. find out why. he delicious sugar-free vitafusion fiber well gummies have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. . >>> they're calling for the defate of president obama and so-called unbiblical candidates. organizers hoped as many as 1500 pastors across the...
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, tax reforms on individual and corporate level. we need to take a look at things like education. interestingly, going back to the technology, we have a lot of americans out of work, but a lot of jobs in the technology field where we don't have enough skilled workers to fill them. maybe we need to look at education as well. >> read this quote from henry blodget, the business insider. here is what he said here. he said this is about our current system and philosophy. not sustainable. why not? they're creating a country of aful overlords and 300 million serfs, peasants. are you optimistic? will the middle class start rolling, bouncing back again? >> i'd like to say yes, i'm hopeful. but i think it really is going to -- i think this is going to take time and i think it is going to come down a lot to policies and regulations and what our tax structure looks like moving forward. i think it will come down to the political elections as well and what americans see for their future. >> morgan brennan, thank you. i'll go with you on the glass
, tax reforms on individual and corporate level. we need to take a look at things like education. interestingly, going back to the technology, we have a lot of americans out of work, but a lot of jobs in the technology field where we don't have enough skilled workers to fill them. maybe we need to look at education as well. >> read this quote from henry blodget, the business insider. here is what he said here. he said this is about our current system and philosophy. not sustainable. why...
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to save and invest tax free. this is one of the big differences between these two candidates. mitt romney has a pro growth tax reform plan and create jobs and get the economy moving. you heard the president has no plans whatsoever. >> but the democrats keep pointing out you're being very vague and you're not being very specific in the so-called offsets. how do you pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts without raising the deficit? >> well, you know what, wolf, i'm reminded of what happened in 1986, the last time the congress and the president reagan at the time undertook major tax reform. the president didn't come forward with a plan, take it or leave it plan that he presented to the congress. instead, he articulated some broad principles that would guide him in his negotiations with congressional leaders and those led to major tax reform. that created a major economic expansion in this country. those are the same principles that governor romney would follow, if he's elected as president. >> so, he's not going to spell
to save and invest tax free. this is one of the big differences between these two candidates. mitt romney has a pro growth tax reform plan and create jobs and get the economy moving. you heard the president has no plans whatsoever. >> but the democrats keep pointing out you're being very vague and you're not being very specific in the so-called offsets. how do you pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts without raising the deficit? >> well, you know what, wolf, i'm reminded of what happened...